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		<title>Comment on Platonic myths: The Myth of Aristophanes by &#187; After listening to my last post, I was reminded of this image I created as part of a proposal for an</title>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about Love: The Myth of Narcissus by Understanding The Narcissist &#171; CITIZEN.BLOGGER.1984+ GUNNY.G BLOG.EMAIL</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Arrogant Philosophers by dorotheosgaza</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Against the arrogance of the Enlightenment, the wisdom of the Desert:

[Abba Bessarion] &quot;A brother who sinned was put out of the church by the priest.  Abba Bessarion got up and went out with him saying, &#039;I too am a sinner.&#039;&quot;

[Abba Anthony] &quot;Our life and our death is with our neighbor. If we win our brother, we win God. If we cause our brother to stumble, we have sinned against Christ.&quot;

[Abba Dorotheos of Gaza] &quot;Before anything else we need humility: a being ready to listen whenever a word is spoken to us, and to say, &#039; I submit&#039;, because through humility every device of the enemy, every kind of obstacle, is destroyed.&quot;

[Mar Isaac the Syrian]: &quot;Rebuke no one, not even those who live wickedly.&quot;

Though not fashionable, this tact leads to restorative justice and to the rekindling of community in environments, and under conditions, that most would find hard to believe.  I have personally witnessed such transformation on Death Row and in maximum security prisons, in the Deep South, and in the rural mountain villages of Eastern Congo, where I shall return to in a fortnight.

Proclamations are proclamations.  Praxis is a completely matter.

Kenōsis seems to me to be a critical component in the evaluation of arrogance.

In honor of the consistency of those who walk this walk, with the marginalized, the oppressed, the abandoned, in particular, the community of brave, creative Trappist monks at Notre-Dame de Mokoto, I offer these gentle words from Dom Bernardo Oilvera, OSCO: &quot;If you want to know and reach Christ, you will arrive sooner by following him than reading about him.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Against the arrogance of the Enlightenment, the wisdom of the Desert:</p>
<p>[Abba Bessarion] &#8220;A brother who sinned was put out of the church by the priest.  Abba Bessarion got up and went out with him saying, &#8216;I too am a sinner.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>[Abba Anthony] &#8220;Our life and our death is with our neighbor. If we win our brother, we win God. If we cause our brother to stumble, we have sinned against Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Abba Dorotheos of Gaza] &#8220;Before anything else we need humility: a being ready to listen whenever a word is spoken to us, and to say, &#8216; I submit&#8217;, because through humility every device of the enemy, every kind of obstacle, is destroyed.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Mar Isaac the Syrian]: &#8220;Rebuke no one, not even those who live wickedly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though not fashionable, this tact leads to restorative justice and to the rekindling of community in environments, and under conditions, that most would find hard to believe.  I have personally witnessed such transformation on Death Row and in maximum security prisons, in the Deep South, and in the rural mountain villages of Eastern Congo, where I shall return to in a fortnight.</p>
<p>Proclamations are proclamations.  Praxis is a completely matter.</p>
<p>Kenōsis seems to me to be a critical component in the evaluation of arrogance.</p>
<p>In honor of the consistency of those who walk this walk, with the marginalized, the oppressed, the abandoned, in particular, the community of brave, creative Trappist monks at Notre-Dame de Mokoto, I offer these gentle words from Dom Bernardo Oilvera, OSCO: &#8220;If you want to know and reach Christ, you will arrive sooner by following him than reading about him.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life of Aristotle by acidhistory</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 10:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[‘I will not allow the Athenians to sin twice against philosophy’ - Classic!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘I will not allow the Athenians to sin twice against philosophy’ &#8211; Classic!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking about Love: The Myth of Narcissus by Search Term Poem I &#171; Phoenix Rising</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Search Term Poem I &#171; Phoenix Rising]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on St Augustine and CS Lewis on longing and desire by Neel Burton</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My spiritual stance is not straightforward, and some day I intend to write (and publish) an essay on my conception of &#039;God&#039;.  Generally speaking, I feel that debate about the existence of God is neither here nor there: the real question is, what do you define as God? At the very least, &#039;He&#039; is a metaphor for the forces of nature or laws of physics. Thank you for reading my blog: if you move on to my books, I would recommend starting with &#039;Hide and Seek&#039; from which the TED talk is extracted. All best, Neel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My spiritual stance is not straightforward, and some day I intend to write (and publish) an essay on my conception of &#8216;God&#8217;.  Generally speaking, I feel that debate about the existence of God is neither here nor there: the real question is, what do you define as God? At the very least, &#8216;He&#8217; is a metaphor for the forces of nature or laws of physics. Thank you for reading my blog: if you move on to my books, I would recommend starting with &#8216;Hide and Seek&#8217; from which the TED talk is extracted. All best, Neel</p>
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		<title>Comment on St Augustine and CS Lewis on longing and desire by cindykk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Burton, love the Lewis quote above. Stumbled upon your TEDx talk (depression good for us...) and found it presented such a wonderfully refreshing perspective. Thank you for your thoughts, research; I plan to delve into some of your books. Out of curiosity, if I may be intrusive, what is your spiritual stance?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Burton, love the Lewis quote above. Stumbled upon your TEDx talk (depression good for us&#8230;) and found it presented such a wonderfully refreshing perspective. Thank you for your thoughts, research; I plan to delve into some of your books. Out of curiosity, if I may be intrusive, what is your spiritual stance?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Plato on Atlantis by Annalie Bronn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annalie Bronn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Professor Freund, I woke up, yesterday morning, Easter Sunday and I remembered a dream I just had of  an ancient sea city appearing from the sea. it was so real that I feel I have to share it with you. 

First I need to tell you about myself, I am living in South Africa, I am in my fifties and I am definitely not interested in sky-fi films,  pc games and such.I have never been exposed to Gibraltar or the lost city of Atlantis before. 

I dreamt that I told my school teacher I wanted to see the  Rock of Gibraltar. So I went to the beach at the rock of Gibraltar and suddenly a huge amount of water rose into the air and an ancient sea city appeared from the sea. I was then transported to this acropolis, there were temples, buildings and corridors that were all overgrown with sea mollusc and such. I then saw 5 statues on each corner of the outer buildings of the island that were rather huge.

The one side of the island appeared to be white, like maybe certain rock formations or snow? The other side were overgrown with green bushes. 

The reason why I am writing to you is that I heard the words &quot;73km&#039;&quot; clearly

I asked myself, &quot;Is this the ancient sea city of Atlantis?&quot; If it is, is it 73km away from Gibraltar, in Donana, or in the ocean? The strangest of it all is that on Sunday afternoon after I had the dream I saw the Nat Geo broadcast on tv for the first time where you spoke about the city and it&#039;s close proximity to Gibraltar. It was strange and uncanny to me.

Annalie Bronn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Professor Freund, I woke up, yesterday morning, Easter Sunday and I remembered a dream I just had of  an ancient sea city appearing from the sea. it was so real that I feel I have to share it with you. </p>
<p>First I need to tell you about myself, I am living in South Africa, I am in my fifties and I am definitely not interested in sky-fi films,  pc games and such.I have never been exposed to Gibraltar or the lost city of Atlantis before. </p>
<p>I dreamt that I told my school teacher I wanted to see the  Rock of Gibraltar. So I went to the beach at the rock of Gibraltar and suddenly a huge amount of water rose into the air and an ancient sea city appeared from the sea. I was then transported to this acropolis, there were temples, buildings and corridors that were all overgrown with sea mollusc and such. I then saw 5 statues on each corner of the outer buildings of the island that were rather huge.</p>
<p>The one side of the island appeared to be white, like maybe certain rock formations or snow? The other side were overgrown with green bushes. </p>
<p>The reason why I am writing to you is that I heard the words &#8220;73km&#8217;&#8221; clearly</p>
<p>I asked myself, &#8220;Is this the ancient sea city of Atlantis?&#8221; If it is, is it 73km away from Gibraltar, in Donana, or in the ocean? The strangest of it all is that on Sunday afternoon after I had the dream I saw the Nat Geo broadcast on tv for the first time where you spoke about the city and it&#8217;s close proximity to Gibraltar. It was strange and uncanny to me.</p>
<p>Annalie Bronn</p>
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		<title>Comment on Original Sin: The Psychology of Dishonesty by Adrian Cox</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 04:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a lovely piece of research. Does anyone know about a contemporary British philosopher, Hollis, who writes with insight, it seems to me, about The Prisoner&#039;s Dilemma and the Law of the Commons? He discusses cheating and I believe is pessimistic about rational collective action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely piece of research. Does anyone know about a contemporary British philosopher, Hollis, who writes with insight, it seems to me, about The Prisoner&#8217;s Dilemma and the Law of the Commons? He discusses cheating and I believe is pessimistic about rational collective action.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Platonic myths: The Myth of Aristophanes by Apollodore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apollodore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4paSMqKYXtY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speech of Aristophanes: French animated adaptation of Plato&#8217;s Symposium (189d-191d) with English subtitles :<br />
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